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View Poll Results: Should NASCAR suspend Kurt Busch for his actions at Dover, and for how long?
One race 6 33.33%
Two races 5 27.78%
Five races 1 5.56%
Rest of the season 3 16.67%
Not at all 3 16.67%
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:31 PM
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Fitting punishment?

So what would you give as a fitting punishment for Kurt Busch's pit road temper tantrum? Basically I see about 4 options.

#1. Suspend him as a driver for 3 races. Personally I don't think this is strong enough to convince others that pit road is not the place to take out your aggression. Yeah, its stiff, and will basically take him out of the chase, but I like option 2 better.

#2. Suspend the entire team for 3 races. This means no driver points, no owner points, no nothing. I only with that this would drop him out of the top 35 in both owner and driver points so that he would have to prove that he knows how to race, and not just run his mouth.

#3. Dock him a couple hundred points. Personally I say him and owner, but I know there are people out there that are hating me already because I brought up owners. This is the second worst option.

#4. Consider the matter closed with him being parked and coming in 42nd. This is the stupidest option, also striking me as the most likely. Oh, and put him on "probation". This would make me cancel my tickets for Dega, taking the $600 hit for 2 infield sites, and stop watching NASCAR altogether.

The reason I brought owners into this is because personally, I feel that the owners control how much they let a driver get away with. If Penske wants to avoid the owner points hit he should go to the trailer as soon as the race ended and say "I am voluntarily suspending him for 3 races." Then, and only then, would I allow the 2 car into the next 3 races.

For those of you who are saying I am only peeved because it was Tony, this has absolutely nothing to do with the on-track incident. This has to do with the fact that if that Jason Lee hadn't been as fast as he was, he could have been seriously hurt through something that he had no part in. You want to piss and moan at someone once you are back to the haulers? Go for it. You want to get back at him by spinning him next race? Get to it. NASCAR might b***h, but I could care less... Makes life exciting.

DO NOT BRING YOUR CRAPPY ATTITUDE TO PIT ROAD WHERE REAL PEOPLE ARE UNPROTECTED YOU INFANTILE PIECE OF !@#$...

Edit: Whoever still thinks this is about Stewart, i have one more thing on the subject. I said above that this has nothing to do with the on track incident, but I will say this about what happened and the comments made by Kurt. If he thinks that Stewart had an inch to give him, they didn't pin his ears far enough back on his head. Mayhap they should move them further so he could have noticed the BRIGHT FREAKIN ORANGE CAR THAT WAS STILL THERE!!!!!!

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Old 06-05-2007, 09:37 AM
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I'm going with option 1. While I understand what you mean about owners, I have a hard time penalizing people that didn't directly participate in an incident. Honestly though, I wouldn't be mad if they did go ahead and suspend the entire team, I just think it's a bit harsh. That was one of the most idiotic things I've seen in a long time. I still can't believe he did that. He could've seriously injured someone just to make, in his words, "a point."

As far as whether or not I'd be as outraged if it wasn't Tony, I'd be just as upset about it if it were Gordon, or Johnson, or Montoya, or any other driver that I don't like. It's not about him wrecking my driver, it's about him endangering the pit crew, ANY pit crew. NASCAR needs to send a clear message that behavior such as his will not be tolerated. I doubt they will, probation will probably be the only thing he gets, maybe a fine to go along with it. If that's the case, NASCAR's "safety first" position will become a complete joke in my eyes.

Something to ponder, if Tony did what Kurt did yesterday, how long do you think this thread would be by now?

Anyway, Kurt proved to me yesterday that he's still a moron. Tony giving him an inch? There was a WALL in Tony's way! Where the h*** did he think Tony could go? Then he had the nerve to say "I had him 90% clear." Just 90%? What about the other 10%? I swear, if some guy ever crashes me on the road and says "well I mean, I had you 90% clear", I'm going to kick him square in the b**** just for being an IDIOT. He also said Tony got what he wanted, "mission accomplished" by wrecking him. No Kurt, YOU did that to yourself.

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Old 06-05-2007, 09:49 AM
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3 races is a bit stiff I think, but 1 would be appropriate plus a severe points and dollar penalty. Kurt Busch seriously needs to learn about give and take on the track... Tony as usual is the one trying to teach at the expense of his own good day which frustrates me sometimes but someone's gotta do it.

Doing what he did in pit road was inexcuseable though. I hope it's a harsh penalty.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:44 AM
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3 races is a bit stiff I think, but 1 would be appropriate plus a severe points and dollar penalty. Kurt Busch seriously needs to learn about give and take on the track... Tony as usual is the one trying to teach at the expense of his own good day which frustrates me sometimes but someone's gotta do it.

Doing what he did in pit road was inexcuseable though. I hope it's a harsh penalty.
1 race would be enough if it were just for something that was done on the track, but it wasn't Kurt decided to bring it into pit lane. That is why I said 3.

On a side note, why is it only the Stewart fans in this post. Curves, mrsmopar, someone who is a fan of someone else wanna weigh in here? How about a Kurt Busch fan, if we can find one.
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1 race would be enough if it were just for something that was done on the track, but it wasn't Kurt decided to bring it into pit lane. That is why I said 3.

On a side note, why is it only the Stewart fans in this post. Curves, mrsmopar, someone who is a fan of someone else wanna weigh in here? How about a Kurt Busch fan, if we can find one.
Probably because they're all 'there they go again' about Busch or Kurt B*tch as I call him and Tony

3 races is rather unheard of isn't it? Not that i'm against it ... but i think it's more than what is necessary to prevent that sorta thing again.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:21 PM
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I'll be happy to reply once I see the replay. I had to work yesterday and only watched the first half of the race so far on my DVR. Give me another day to finish and you'll hear from me!
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:02 PM
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I think a suspension of the team will punish the sponsor and I don't believe that would be a good precident.

I think 200 points from the owner, 200 points, 2 races and $200,000 for Busch would send the message.


It does not matter who was at fault on the track, Busch made a huge and dangerous mistake.


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Old 06-05-2007, 01:50 PM
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I definately go with Option 1. I was apalled to see what Kurt did on pit road. That poor guy could of been seriously injured or worse. Kurt has anger issues as well as very immature. I am not a fan of a guy that does "snow angels" after a win. Be a man and climb a fence after a win. Enough said.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:03 PM
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I think a suspension of the team will punish the sponsor and I don't believe that would be a good precident.

I think 200 points from the owner, 200 points, 2 races and $200,000 for Busch would send the message.


It does not matter who was at fault on the track, Busch made a huge and dangerous mistake.


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I agree with you on the points and monetary fine, but I want Kurt suspended for more than 2 races. I think at the minimum a 6 race suspension. I would be happy if he was suspended for the rest of the year.

There is absolutely no reason to put a pit crew members life/career in jeopardy just because your pissed off you wrecked your car. Nascar needs to set an example and teach Kurt a lesson that type of action will not be tolerated. I don't think a couple of races would be enough.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:04 PM
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Definitely Option 1 is the best of them all. What if that guy wasn't paying attention? He could of gotten hurt or killed.
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