Hey guys, I was just wondering: how many people here believe that NASCAR is still seen as a "redneck" sport for rednecks? Because if you ask me, I don't think that's the case anymore. I've noticed that alot of people have started getting into NASCAR and aren't necessarily "rednecks". I think that old stereotype about NASCAR fans is starting to die out now. Because I am starting to notice something. I think NASCAR fans are starting to become more diverse now. It's not like the 1980-1990 image of NASCAR anymore that we all have to carry rebel flags and listen to country music. And also NASCAR doesn't just do races in the "redneck" states like Kentucky, Texas, South Carolina, Tennessee etc. They also do races in places like California, Vegas, Canada, Illinois, New York, and Arizona. So my point is: I think it's a good day in NASCAR to know that I can be a NASCAR fan these days and not be shunned by the general public as someone who has to drive a pickup truck, have a scraggly beard, and a toothless grin.
If I didn't know better I would say that your whole statement was discrimination. Why do you assume that anyone would expect you to HAVE to be a redneck or that you even made a correct statement that describes rednecks?
All in all I think I am offended with your post
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Hey guys, I was just wondering: how many people here believe that NASCAR is still seen as a "redneck" sport for rednecks? I think it's a good day in NASCAR to know that I can be a NASCAR fan these days and not be shunned by the general public as someone who has to drive a pickup truck, have a scraggly beard, and a toothless grin.
I am extremely offended by your obvious uneductaed comments. You should be removed from this forum. Just becuase the media puts forth rednecks in a bad light does not make it so.
By the way, the redneck flag that you refer to stands for states rights, it has nothing to do with slavery whatsoever.
You might wanna get your facts straight before posting political nonsense.
why do you not think there are rednecks in illinois? lol ok so we did this last year.. and if being a race fan and listening to country music, being a patriot of my country and its troops on foreign soil, opening a door for a lady, makes me a redneck...then so be it... not sure of your definition of redneck, but that one is as touchy as the "N" word... soooo tread lightly.... we did this before and no doubt we will do it again... so I advise caution here.. and no I do not endorse anyone being excluded from the forum for asking a question.. and yeah the rebel battle flag has been attacked as a symbol... it truly was a war of states rights..but popular history will be what it is, cause we as a society are too darn lazy to study history.
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If I didn't know better I would say that your whole statement was discrimination. Why do you assume that anyone would expect you to HAVE to be a redneck or that you even made a correct statement that describes rednecks?
All in all I think I am offended with your post
If I offended you, I apologize, I wasn't trying to do that. I was just saying that the MAINSTREAM seems to depict NASCAR fans like that. I wasn't saying that's what I believe how NASCAR fans are. I was just saying that its good that NASCAR has a diverse fan base now, because NASCAR used to be pretty much a predominantly white fan base. And don't even say that's a racist comment, that's just plain facts.
oh geeezzzz.. don't go there... ever hear of bill lester? driver? felix sabates? car owner carlos contraras? so many others.. we really do not want to start that line...ok?
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As a long time NASCAR fan/Born and liveing in the Southern United States/also caucasion/ well at least I dont drive a pick up ( I,m a Jeep guy ) I am extremely offended by your most uninformened post.
True and original meaning of "Redneck" is very similar to a blue collar worker and was normaly reserved for men working outdoors in heavy industrial and agricultural fields, for example Oil rig workers/power company lineman,agricultural/ranch workers etc.
Your apparent understanding of it is very similar to using the N word for a African American and offensive to many people.
I,d request that this thread be removed by one of our moderators before more is said.
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This person simply brought up a subject that is OFTEN talked about, and associated with NASCAr. There is absolutely NO reason why we all can't talk about it in a normal politcal method.
You guys complaining are obviously not rednecks, because any redneck i know of is DARN proud to be a redneck, their lifestyle and their roots, and don't mind it in the least bit. SO with that, what on earth are you complaining about or offended by if you are not what you would call a redneck?
Let's not bicker, this is a FORUM, a place for discussion.
As long as there is no driver bashing, or profanity or personal direct insults... we have no problems.
This is a topic let's discuss it, or if you don't like it don't chime in on this topic, thanks!
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You guys complaining are obviously not rednecks, because any redneck i know of is DARN proud to be a redneck, their lifestyle and their roots, and don't mind it in the least bit. SO with that, what on earth are you complaining about or offended by if you are not what you would call a redneck?
As long as there is no driver bashing, or profanity or personal direct insults... we have no problems.
Gosh, thats an interesting position that y'all are takin considering that not one reply to this thread has been in support of the poster.
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There is nothing to be offended about.
I just wonder if the topic were negroes or Mexicans, etc if you would have the same comments. Sounds like a double standard to me.
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This is a topic let's discuss it, or if you don't like it don't chime in on this topic, thanks!
In other words, we all MUST agree! Odd attitude for a forum considering that in every forum I have ever visited, many people do not agree with the poster, i.e. as you say "let's discuss it." Well we are discussing it, you just don't like our feedback now, do you?
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Originally Posted by NascarSpace
This person simply brought up a subject that is OFTEN talked about, and associated with NASCAr. There is absolutely NO reason why we all can't talk about it in a normal politcal method.
I'm not a politician, just a down-home redneck who was raised to defend my honor and that of my family so you'll excuse me if I refuse to play politics!
I do believe that I speak for all when I say that we all eagerly await Nascarspace's reply
This person simply brought up a subject that is OFTEN talked about, and associated with NASCAr. There is absolutely NO reason why we all can't talk about it in a normal politcal method.
You guys complaining are obviously not rednecks, because any redneck i know of is DARN proud to be a redneck, their lifestyle and their roots, and don't mind it in the least bit. SO with that, what on earth are you complaining about or offended by if you are not what you would call a redneck?
Let's not bicker, this is a FORUM, a place for discussion.
As long as there is no driver bashing, or profanity or personal direct insults... we have no problems.
This is a topic let's discuss it, or if you don't like it don't chime in on this topic, thanks!
THANK YOU! Finally someone who is understanding where I'm coming from. I can't believe some of you are actually comparing what I said to racism. Let me explain something to you, there's a fine line between racism and being a NASCAR fan. Now if I were to of came on here and said, "All NASCAR fans are stupid rednecks with no lives" or something along those lines, then yes, I could understand why you would all be offended. All I said was NASCAR is starting to become a more diverse sport and that I think NASCAR has come a long way from what people used to percieve it as. I was saying that NASCAR is starting to get more accepted into the Mainstream. So, stockcarfan, and others that say "I wonder if this topic were about negroes or mexicans, etc. if you would have the same comments"- just cut the crap. Comparing this to something like that is just plain ridiculous. Blacks and Mexicans actually HAVE A HISTORY of being oppressed and treated unfairly. All I said was that NASCAR is no longer considered a "redneck" sport and is being accepted as a mainstream sport. Where in the history of our country have you heard of NASCAR fans having to go through slavery? Please fill the gap for me between those two things. I seem to be missing it. And I'll admit some wrongdoing on my part, maybe I went to far when I brought up things like "listening to country music and carrying rebel flags, and scraggly beards". and I apologize for that. I was just trying to say some examples of the stereotypes that you hear about NASCAR fans from the media.
And why should I be banned from the forum? I'm much a NASCAR fan as anyone on here. It's not like I joined this site just to start crap with NASCAR fans, I love the sport. Some of you guys on here act naive to the fact that there are Non-nascar fans out there that have these stereotypes against us. So my point was that these people are starting to wake up and see that that's not what we're all about.
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