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Old 05-30-2007, 09:22 PM
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Thanks for posting this bigE! You know I am interested in seeing what's going to happen with Alltel in all of this!

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Thanks for posting this bigE! You know I am interested in seeing what's going to happen with Alltel in all of this!

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ah thanx mrs12... yup I knew you and the other newmanites would be interested in the phone stuff....
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i don't get it, i don't believe that any sponsor should have a monopoly on the sport..so what is they are the series sponsor, they should have enough faith in their own company, to let the other sponsors advertise...we have almost the same problem here, i can't get phone service through my cable company, because the local phone company has it wrapped up, of course they are in court with it now, but lawsuites take forever usually...it really sucks..
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Unhappy monoplies aren't right!

It goes even further than that with NASCAR. They seem to think that they own the word "Nascar" and are suing a lot of little mom and pop companies to keep the name to themselves!! How can you own a sport? Their thinking is warped?!!
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i don't get it, i don't believe that any sponsor should have a monopoly on the sport..so what is they are the series sponsor, they should have enough faith in their own company, to let the other sponsors advertise...we have almost the same problem here, i can't get phone service through my cable company, because the local phone company has it wrapped up, of course they are in court with it now, but lawsuites take forever usually...it really sucks..
I think you're comparing apples to oranges. Yes you should have the ability to get your phone service from whomever. But if I'm gonna pay NASCAR millions of dollars to be a title sponsor, I think it's ok for me to require them not to use my money to promote my competitors products.
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It goes even further than that with NASCAR. They seem to think that they own the word "Nascar" and are suing a lot of little mom and pop companies to keep the name to themselves!! How can you own a sport? Their thinking is warped?!!
Uhhh... they DO own NASCAR. Just like NFL and MLB are owned by their respective companies. I can sell a baseball bat but if I want to sell a MLB bat, then I should have to pay MLB for the right... Just like I can sell a stock car if I want but if I call it a NASCAR stock car then NASCAR is entitled to a %.
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not to mention ...y'all never saw a Marlboro car while winston was the title sponsor ... ya realize that don't ya?
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Exclamation NASCAR sues AT&T for $100 million over sponsorship agreement

NASCAR sues AT&T for $100 million in countersuit
Also ask to kick Nextel competitors of out Cup Series
By The Associated Press
June 17, 2007
07:46 PM EDT

ATLANTA -- NASCAR filed a $100 million counter claim against AT&T Inc. on Sunday, accusing the wireless provider of interfering with its exclusive sponsorship agreement with rival wireless company Nextel.

The suit also asks that NASCAR be granted the right to kick AT&T -- and all telecommunications companies other than Nextel -- out of its top series in 2008.

NASCAR filed the suit electronically in U.S. District Court in Atlanta, alleging breach of contract, fraud and misrepresentation, and conspiracy to aid and abet wrongful interference with Nextel.

NASCAR and AT&T have been battling all season over NASCAR's refusal to allow AT&T to put its logos on Jeff Burton's car. Burton and his Richard Childress Racing team have a sponsorship agreement with Cingular, which has since been purchased by AT&T.

AT&T is re-branding the company, but NASCAR would not allow the logos to be changed, citing its agreement with Nextel. Cingular and Alltel were grandfathered into the sport when Nextel entered in 2004, but no changes are permitted to their deals and no other telecommunications companies are allowed into the sport.

NASCAR claims Nextel has exclusivity through its 10-year, $700 million investment.

AT&T sued, and U.S. District Judge Marvin Shoob issued a preliminary injunction last month that allowed the Cingular logos to be replaced. He also barred NASCAR and any entity affiliated with it from interfering with AT&T's rights as primary sponsor of the car in the Nextel Cup series.

Burton has raced with AT&T logos since the May 19 ruling. He and Childress both said Sunday they were close to a contract extension for both the driver and AT&T.

In its counterclaim, NASCAR charges that AT&T and Cingular breached its contract with NASCAR, noting the company agreed to abide by NASCAR rules.

NASCAR is seeking a ruling that it "may take certain actions for the 2008 season in order to protect NASCAR and all participants in the sport by placing NASCAR into full compliance with the terms and conditions of the Nextel Sponsorship Agreement.''

"Cingulars refusal to follow NASCAR rules and accept NASCARs denial of this paint scheme, and the filing of this lawsuit, has undermined NASCARs authority as the sanctioning body of stock car auto racing,'' said the suit.

Most notable among those "certain actions'' is that "NASCAR may exercise its discretion not to offer NASCAR membership to Cingular or AT&T for the 2008 Nextel Cup Series season.''

NASCAR also contends it should have the right to not offer a driver and car owner agreement for 2008 to any car sponsored by a telecommunications company other than Nextel.

Alltel sponsors Ryan Newman for Penske Racing.

NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said NASCAR does not comment on pending litigation.

AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel could not be reached for comment.
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not to mention ...y'all never saw a Marlboro car while winston was the title sponsor ... ya realize that don't ya?
I recall seeing Marlboro, Benson & Hedges, and other tobacco products that weren't a part of RJR sponsoring cars from 1972-1978.
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By JENNA FRYER
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June 17, 2007

BROOKLYN, Mich. (AP) -- NASCAR filed a $100 million counter claim against AT&T Inc. on Sunday, accusing the wireless provider of interfering with its exclusive sponsorship agreement with rival wireless company Nextel.

NASCAR filed the suit electronically in U.S. district court in Atlanta, alleging breach of contract, fraud and misrepresentation, and conspiracy to aid and abet wrongful interference with Nextel.

The two sides have been battling all season over NASCAR's refusal to allow AT&T to put its logos on Jeff Burton's car. Burton and his Richard Childress Racing team have a sponsorship agreement with Cingular, which has since been purchased by AT&T.

NASCAR would not allow the logos to be changed, citing its agreement with Nextel. Cingular and Alltel were grandfathered into the sport when Nextel entered in 2004, but no changes are permitted to their deals and no other companies are allowed into the sport.

AT&T sued, and U.S. District Judge Marvin Shoob in Atlanta issued a preliminary injunction last month that allowed the Cingular logos to be replaced. He also barred NASCAR and any entity affiliated with it from interfering with AT&T's rights as primary sponsor of the car in the Nextel Cup series.
1st it's Texas motorspeedway, then Kentucky Speedway, then AT&T. Is this the beginning of the end of the France family dictatorship of NASCAR? But we all know that AT&T and NASCAR/Nextel are multi-billion dollar companies and this case will take at least 5 years to settle. Remember the U.S. vs AT&T case from '1958'? Wasn't settled until about 1978-1979. And that was because AT&T wanted to get into computers with their Bell Labs.
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