When six crew members were thrown out of the Daytona 500 for cheating it was suggested that NASCAR start suspending drivers as part of the penalty process.
Jimmie Johnson was aghast at the idea.
The defending Nextel Cup champion said he has no idea what crew chief Chad Knaus does while building his race cars. And even if Johnson were privy to such information, he has no control in how his Chevrolets are constructed.
Johnson's defense is at the very core of why NASCAR should start suspending its drivers. Benching the star of the team would force him to take responsibility for his crew.
Nothing else is working.
Johnson and teammate Jeff Gordon both showed up in Sonoma, Calif., with cars that failed initial inspection, and NASCAR refused to let them on the track Friday. But they still were allowed to race Sunday, and crew chiefs Knaus and Steve Letarte were both on site to guide their drivers to decent finishes. Gordon finished seventh and Johnson 17th.
Now they wait and wonder what further punishment NASCAR will impose. Penalties are traditionally issued on Tuesdays.
``All of us are blown away and we don't know what's coming next,'' Gordon said. ``We are at the mercy of NASCAR and I hope they are light on us, but who knows?''
That there's any doubt in what the penalties will be stems from decades of inconsistency when it comes to enforcing the rules and doling out the punishment.
Cheating has long been celebrated as a quaint piece of NASCAR culture that even has its own slogan -- ``If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin.''' There's long been a blurry territory of what is flagrant, what is working the margins of the rule book and what is a simple mistake.
Hendrick Motorsports is using that defense following this latest infraction, with team owner Rick Hendrick contending his crew chiefs were working within a ``gray area'' of the rule book.
``I don't necessarily say they bent the rules -- I think they thought they were working inside an area in which they could,'' Hendrick said. ``It's going to be tough, as we go forward, on what's intentional and what's accidental and how they handle it, so you're definitely going to have to show up with these things measured up.''
Here's the issue the Hendrick guys aren't understanding: There is no ``gray area'' anymore.
NASCAR is pretty serious about its new Car of Tomorrow, and has made it clear it won't tolerate any alterations in its design. In fact, series officials distributed a memo before the car debuted in March that outlined the penalties teams would be subjected to if they were caught messing with the COT.
So it was no surprise to anyone, Hendrick teams included, when Dale Earnhardt Jr. was docked 100 points and crew chief Tony Eury Jr. was suspended six weeks and fined $100,000 when their COT failed a May inspection.
The Hendrick teams most likely will get the same punishment -- although some argue Knaus' past infractions should warrant a much stiffer penalty because anything short of what Earnhardt and Eury received would seem unfair.
Problem is, it's probably not enough to even dent the Hendrick juggernaut.
Even after a 100-point penalty, Gordon would still be leading the Nextel Cup standings by 171 points. Johnson would drop from third to fifth. The monetary fines are irrelevant, and Hendrick proved last year it can overcome the absence of a crew chief when Johnson won twice during Knaus' four-race suspension.
And, don't think for a minute that Knaus and Letarte won't spend their free weekends back at the Hendrick compound making sure their program is locked and loaded for when the Chase for the championship begins in September.
What kind of message would it send if Knaus and Letarte, who have combined to win eight races this season, return after a suspension more dominant than they already are?
If NASCAR is serious about taking a stand, and chairman Brian France said Sunday officials ``have to lay down the law,'' then it's time to suspend the driver.
The driver is the most high-profile member of the team, and if he's at risk for going home, chances are he'd keep a very close eye on those charged with building his car.
And the fans don't care if Knaus or Eury or any other crew chief isn't on top of the pit box come race day. But they certainly wouldn't be pleased if Earnhardt, Johnson and Gordon weren't on the track.
NASCAR believes suspending drivers punishes the fans. Even better, because it would create more pressure on the driver to keep his team from breaking the rules.
There's no gray anymore, not according to NASCAR, which insists it's all black and white these days. But that message will never be delivered until NASCAR proves it with a penalty system that officially frightens its competitors.
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IMO it's hard to punish a driver when it's not his team or his car. The first time a driver says he won't run the car he will either be replaced or he won't be allowed to see the car until it's time to drive it.
It would take something drastic like a big hit in points to slow down the cheating. I'm thinking somewhere in the 500 point range, thats enough points to hurt anyone regardless of there points lead.
Nascar needs to put a solid rule book into effect with set guidelines for the punishment, it's the only way it will be fair to everyone. The first thing they need to do is get rid of the grey areas in the rules and penalties.
This is a tough one. I dont' think the driver should be penalized, but I do think that the crew chief gets off easy. The only thing he can't do is sit on the box on race weekend. We've seen that this rarely ends up hurting the driver as communication between chief and team continues with the modern technology available to them. I'm not sure what the answer is, but suspending the driver isnt' it.
This is a tough one. I dont' think the driver should be penalized, but I do think that the crew chief gets off easy. The only thing he can't do is sit on the box on race weekend.
Crew chiefs aren't allowed at the track when suspended, but yes they are still able to communicate with the team.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but crew chiefs and car builders are really pushing the issue of the so-called "Grey Area".
The fines suspensions and loss of points penalties they are given doesn't seem to be working, not sure what should be done, one suggestion I have is let them race, but if they have been caught cheating, take away the points and money they would have earned for that race, along with the normal point and monitary fines, that may make them think twice about it.
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hmmm maybe make the rules more clear, and elimate the gray area?
they fit the freaking templates in the first place.
see the article in the other thread that DW wrote....
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hmmm maybe make the rules more clear, and elimate the gray area?
they fit the freaking templates in the first place.
see the article in the other thread that DW wrote....
True, but keep in mind the rule broken that says (and I paraphrase) "for changes not approved by NASCAR". That is protection for future changes that havne't been attempted yet and that's what Knaus and Letarte did.
True, but keep in mind the rule broken that says (and I paraphrase) "for changes not approved by NASCAR". That is protection for future changes that havne't been attempted yet and that's what Knaus and Letarte did.
yes but how will they know if Nascar approves unless they try?? hehehehe
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