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Old 11-02-2006, 12:05 AM
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Thumbs up 'bought time

well they were warned earlier about it... NASCAR had to do something... just like when junior spun his car on purpose to get a yellow last year, when ya get caught by the camera or radio ya gonna have to pay... bought time NASCAR did something about what they have been warning drivers not to do...
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Old 11-02-2006, 09:35 AM
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well they were warned earlier about it... NASCAR had to do something... just like when junior spun his car on purpose to get a yellow last year, when ya get caught by the camera or radio ya gonna have to pay... bought time NASCAR did something about what they have been warning drivers not to do...
I agree bigEfan, but I wonder would they have fined one of their bigger stars? Nascar needs consistancy. The cameras don't catch everything either. When McMurray hit Gordon last week (it wasn't McMurray's fault!) they had no camera view to show what happened. Debris cautions should be checked out fully, I think it happens alot, Robby just got caught
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:12 AM
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I agree with both of you bigE and Curves. Nascar needs to be way more consistent with their rules. They penalize some drivers and then don't do anything to others. Take Martinsville and Ryan Newman as an example. Casey Mears had been bumping cars out of his way all race long, then he hits Ryan and Ryan hits him back (as well he should). Newman gets a penalty for rough driving and has to go to the back of the longest line. Mears gets nothing. Later that race David Ragan causes 3 accidents and take Shrader and Martin both out of the race, but he goes on to finishes on the lead lap! How is that even possible!!! Where was his rough driving penalty? Racing history is filled with such atrocities.

Nascar does play favorites and if you are lucky your driver is one of Nascars "pretty boys" who reaps the rewards of favoritism. Unfortunately my driver isn't and he has to earn all he gets and deal with the penalties.

Yep, it is common knowledge that drivers do such things as happened last Sunday to get a caution. It is like you said Curves, it's just that Robby Gordon got caught.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:25 PM
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yup...

agree they need to be consistant... but they should warn them... as they did, but then they need to penalize them accordingly... equally... tired of Knaus getting off easy....
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:48 AM
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UPDATE 2: NASCAR announced Wednesday that Robby Gordon has been fined and issued two point-standing penalties, for rule infractions during this past Sunday’s NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series event at Atlanta. Gordon, the driver and owner of the #7 Chevy, has been fined $15,000; he also has been penalized with the loss of 50 driver championship points and 50 car owner championship points. Gordon also has been placed on probation by NASCAR until Dec. 31. Gordon violated Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 12-4-N (intentionally causing a caution condition during the race) – of the NASCAR Rule Book. In addition, Gordon’s crew chief Greg Erwin has been fined $10,000 due to violations of Sections 12-A and 12-4-N – and 9-4-A (crew chief assumes responsibility for the actions of his/her driver, car owner and team members). Erwin also has been placed on probation until Dec. 31.(NASCAR PR)(11-1-2006)

take a look at that.. he should have been disqualified from the race.. not only did he do it. he is a liar.. what a horrible person
Oh yea, I forgot that all 20 of your favorite drivers never have been accussed or caught for doing much worse. K. Busch running into Mears on a red flag at Phoenix. Jeffy has done similar things in his past many times. Your other 18 favorite drivers should think about doing some of these things to cause a caution, maybe they wouldn't end up so many laps down at the end of the race. If RG did do this, he did not put anyone in danger. If you look at the footage, the debris flys upward as if it was in his air wake. If he had throw it out his window it would have gone down. Also from what I remember of the footage, you can not even see in front of his car.The debris just appears in the picture. He was low on the track, possibly trying to avoid the debris. The penalty was b.s. and his appeal should lessen the point subtraction .
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Oh yea, I forgot that all 20 of your favorite drivers never have been accussed or caught for doing much worse. K. Busch running into Mears on a red flag at Phoenix. Jeffy has done similar things in his past many times. Your other 18 favorite drivers should think about doing some of these things to cause a caution, maybe they wouldn't end up so many laps down at the end of the race. If RG did do this, he did not put anyone in danger. If you look at the footage, the debris flys upward as if it was in his air wake. If he had throw it out his window it would have gone down. Also from what I remember of the footage, you can not even see in front of his car.The debris just appears in the picture. He was low on the track, possibly trying to avoid the debris. The penalty was b.s. and his appeal should lessen the point subtraction .
During qualifying it was said that Robby has not denied doing it. His appeal is for consistancy. They reveiwed the tapes endlessly before making their decision. If Robby is not denying it, then he obviously did it.
He didn't hurt anybody? What did that caution do to Jeff Burton?
Yes, more than Robby have pulled crap like that, but the object is to not get caught or maybe Nascar is going to start with Robby and be consistant from then on. I don't think the penalty was too stiff considering what Burton got out of it. Sorry to disagree with you, I still think there are way too many rules, and that most of the fun has been zapped out of racing with the rules.
But Robby denying it for the sake of so and so got away with it, is a waste of time. He got caught, and from the look of his face last week when asked about it, he knew he was caught.
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:15 PM
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agree they need to be consistant... but they should warn them... as they did, but then they need to penalize them accordingly... equally... tired of Knaus getting off easy....

I feel you there bigE, and that goes with my opinion that Nascar two sets of rules, if you will. One for the "pretty boys", which consists of a slap on the wrist. And one for the other drivers, and that is usually a good punch in the chops!
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Oh yea, I forgot that all 20 of your favorite drivers never have been accussed or caught for doing much worse. K. Busch running into Mears on a red flag at Phoenix. Jeffy has done similar things in his past many times. Your other 18 favorite drivers should think about doing some of these things to cause a caution, maybe they wouldn't end up so many laps down at the end of the race. If RG did do this, he did not put anyone in danger. If you look at the footage, the debris flys upward as if it was in his air wake. If he had throw it out his window it would have gone down. Also from what I remember of the footage, you can not even see in front of his car.The debris just appears in the picture. He was low on the track, possibly trying to avoid the debris. The penalty was b.s. and his appeal should lessen the point subtraction .
oh yeah because hes so high in points its gonna hurt him.. why dont you look at this the way you should..if my driver did it i would stand by him but say he was wrong... oh and i guess hurting burton in the points isn't bad enough? he needs to respect those in the chase not cause problems. oh and btw they checked his car and there was foam missing.. dont be so bitter and be a man and chalk it up and say that your driver screwed up. you will be much more respected by me and i'm sure by everyone else.
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oh yeah because hes so high in points its gonna hurt him.. why dont you look at this the way you should..if my driver did it i would stand by him but say he was wrong... oh and i guess hurting burton in the points isn't bad enough? he needs to respect those in the chase not cause problems. oh and btw they checked his car and there was foam missing.. dont be so bitter and be a man and chalk it up and say that your driver screwed up. you will be much more respected by me and i'm sure by everyone else.
fanMcm, the article I read said that Nascar didn't find anything wrong with Robby's car. Don't know what article you read, obviously a different one. But...drivers have been doing this for a long time, in every series. And now Nascar finally decides to penalize someone for doing it. I don't care if Robby did it, he's still one of my favorite drivers. I'm sure Desertroots feels the same way. We're just standing by our man. Lol! We love Robby!
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i understand you should stand by your driver, but to say he did nothing wrong is ludicrous
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