The second clip where Ryan and Bill get together. I've been to a ton of dirt races and one thing you need to know about dirt late models is that they slide alot. Thats all that happened there.
Very true, Stewart Fan. I also appears that "he" does not know that they did not spotters/scanners there like they do in Nascar.
Really? Then you must have missed some races this season, because 2 (maybe 3) drivers have been spun into their box on pit road so far this season. Aside from the spinning.....Drivers are getting into accidents on pit road EVERY week.
Thanks for proving my point!
There are 40+ stock cars out there every race and out of the 22 Cup / ? Busch races so far this year there have been only 2 - "maybe 3" incidents where a driver has spun out a car in the pit. So you 2 or 3 drivers that need to go back and retake stock car pitting 101 knowing when the car ahead of you is about to turn left into his pit is easy. You look at his stickers/car # and you figure out when he will be merging left into his box - duh!
Move out of the way Everyone - Ryan Newman is pitting!!!!
There are 40+ stock cars out there every race and out of the 22 Cup / ? Busch races so far this year there have been only 2 - "maybe 3" incidents where a driver has spun out a car in the pit. So you 2 or 3 drivers that need to go back and retake stock car pitting 101 knowing when the car ahead of you is about to turn left into his pit is easy. You look at his stickers/car # and you figure out when he will be merging left into his box - duh!
Move out of the way Everyone - Ryan Newman is pitting!!!!
Rollins~Explain something to me. We get you don't like Ryan, you haven't explained why, but we get it. Is this just a way of voicing your opinion (which is absolutely ok) or are you just geared up for argueing?
I am all for healthy debate, but you are bringing things up older than this year. What are the stats of "Ryan being dangerous" compared to other drivers? Maybe it would be good for all of us to know why you hate Ryan enough to spend all this time dogging him Like are you a JPM fan and that is why??
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Oh....sorry my friend. But, I don't believe I proved anything for you.
You must have MISSED the part were I clearly said that there are accidents EVERY week on pit road. ....and admittedly that 2 to 3 number could and probably is higher. I was just trying not to over exaggerate the number.
IMO, Doesn't matter how accidents happen.......just that they do happen.
So are you actually trying to sit here and rationally tell us that tapping someone that ends up spinning or sliding someone into his pit is any worse than some guy coming out of his box and causing a two or three car wreck? If you really are of that opinion. Hey that's great. But, then just say so.
For me.....Sorry, I'm not seeing the difference. They are all accidents/mistakes.....and ALL drivers make them.
This past week it at Indy, it was Clint B's teams mistake. Last week it was someone else. Don't see you sitting here bashing him/them.
Honestly Rollins..... I don't believe you are fooling anyone. It's really quite amazing to me (but whatever) that you are sitting here trying to make sound argument about 1 incident with Sadler (from LAST season), and over the course of 6 years he's been driving. Hmm....gotta say....1 time in 6 years. Those odds aren't sounding bad to me....lol
So why don't you just admit it? .....IMO, you simply started this post for one reason. To "stir the pot" & bashing. If that is really not the reason!?!....then Sorry, IMO, you really haven't shown myself and or anyone else here on the forum otherwise.
Really? Then you must have missed some races this season, because 2 (maybe 3) drivers have been spun into their box on pit road so far this season. Aside from the spinning.....Drivers are getting into accidents on pit road EVERY week.
You are so right sounds like someone needs to get over it and move on things like this happen every weekend it's racing and will be happening next weekend move on move on!
Oh....sorry my friend. But, I don't believe I proved anything for you.
You must have MISSED the part were I clearly said that there are accidents EVERY week on pit road. ....and admittedly that 2 to 3 number could and probably is higher. I was just trying not to over exaggerate the number.
IMO, Doesn't matter how accidents happen.......just that they do happen.
So are you actually trying to sit here and rationally tell us that tapping someone that ends up spinning or sliding someone into his pit is any worse than some guy coming out of his box and causing a two or three car wreck? If you really are of that opinion. Hey that's great. But, then just say so.
For me.....Sorry, I'm not seeing the difference. They are all accidents/mistakes.....and ALL drivers make them.
This past week it at Indy, it was Clint B's teams mistake. Last week it was someone else. Don't see you sitting here bashing him/them.
Honestly Rollins..... I don't believe you are fooling anyone. It's really quite amazing to me (but whatever) that you are sitting here trying to make sound argument about 1 incident with Sadler (from LAST season), and over the course of 6 years he's been driving. Hmm....gotta say....1 time in 6 years. Those odds aren't sounding bad to me....lol
So why don't you just admit it? .....IMO, you simply started this post for one reason. To "stir the pot" & bashing. If that is really not the reason!?!....then Sorry, IMO, you really haven't shown myself and or anyone else here on the forum otherwise.
Look, I don't have anything against Ryan as a person - I just think that he can be dangerous on the track and maybe he should go to the Busch series for a season to help relearn some of the fundamentals.
Ryan is no longer a Rookie but at times he seems to make Rookie mistakes. Like putting his car into the wall at the Brickyard. My God, how many times has he been on that track? Besides, he was falling towards the back of the field thus, his car was slower than the contenders... How do you put your car into the wall with a slower car other than trying to out drive what your car can handle?
Moral of the story: don't out drive your car or your gonna end up like a Rookie - in the wall...
Rollins~Explain something to me. We get you don't like Ryan, you haven't explained why, but we get it.
I don't dislike Ryan as a person, it just seems that when he gets frustrated - he does stupid things and becomes a dangerous driver. With Ryan finishing next to last at the Brickyard - I fear that he is going to get desperate to try and make the Chase and someone may get hurt.
I don't dislike Ryan as a person, it just seems that when he gets frustrated - he does stupid things and becomes a dangerous driver. With Ryan finishing next to last at the Brickyard - I fear that he is going to get desperate to try and make the Chase and someone may get hurt.
Fair enough, but at least half the field does stupid things when aggrivated or desperate. Just part of racing. As far as someone getting hurt, well that is why there is so many safety factors.
Thank you for stating your feelings, so that we can get where your coming from more.
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Look, I don't have anything against Ryan as a person - I just think that he can be dangerous on the track and maybe he should go to the Busch series for a season to help relearn some of the fundamentals.
Ryan is no longer a Rookie but at times he seems to make Rookie mistakes. Like putting his car into the wall at the Brickyard. My God, how many times has he been on that track? Besides, he was falling towards the back of the field thus, his car was slower than the contenders... How do you put your car into the wall with a slower car other than trying to out drive what your car can handle?
Moral of the story: don't out drive your car or your gonna end up like a Rookie - in the wall...
Well....though I don't agree with you about Ryan being anymore dangerous than most. You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
IMO....what you are describing here fits pretty much ANY and ALL drivers currently in the CUP series, on any given weekend. They all have their moments, and they all make mistakes.
and.....Interjecting FACT here again (for which you appear to be overlooking and or just plain ignoring) My apologies, if that is not the case..........but anyway.....Ryan did NOT put himself in the wall. He was hit by David Stemme in the LEFT REAR QUARTER panel. David dove into the corner to hard and got loose. It was an accident, plain and simple. Ryan was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yeah he is pretty much an idiot, but I am still ticked at him for taking Brian Vickers our while he was running in the Top 5, and Newman was 2 freakin laps down!!!!!!!
Vickers is getting the raw end of the deal this past couple years.
knowing when the car ahead of you is about to turn left into his pit is easy. You look at his stickers/car # and you figure out when he will be merging left into his box - duh!
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